Custom MIDI kit

HotDogWater · Post by **HotDogWater** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:03 pm

I had also thought about trying in JS3 to see if it behaves differently (more like I expected it to). I think the last time I created a mapping was in that version (could have been JS2 though).

At any rate, thank you both for the help and thoughts here.

Post by **Ralph @ Rayzoon** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:38 pm

Clicking 'Remove Kit Piece' on the articulation should keep JS4 from sending anything for it on the MIDI output and cause the brain to re-route to secondary kit pieces (i.e. snare hit instead of rim shot).
I will check this out and get back to you if I see a bug or need more info.

Thanks!

HotDogWater · Post by **HotDogWater** » Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:57 pm

Bingo, that worked!

I think this is maybe what jas_lan was trying to tell me earlier but I wasn't making the connection that you had to actually open up the sample menu.

Thanks again for the great support!

Azimuth (Archive) · Post by **Azimuth (Archive)** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:02 am

I stand corrected. You learn something new every day!

HotDogWater · Post by **HotDogWater** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 8:28 am

Oh yeah, definitely. I've been learning jamstix for, I guess according to my join date, about 12 years now, and I'm still always pleasantly surprised to learn something new about it each time I use it.

A little more background about what I'm up to here. The Kronos has a lot of interesting drum kits in it, as well as a lot of drum patterns you can play them with. Once you've gotten used to using jamstix though, anything that is based on static repeating patterns is a little lackluster. I mean - the patterns are good, they are like 4 or 8 bar loops, very quick to set up, and inspiring enough to get a song started. But then once you actually want get serious about making a song... I want to inject jamstix into the workflow.

I can't really find any rhyme or reason to how Korg arranged the samples in these drumkits. They don't seem to follow a general MIDI mapping or anything else that I can find. I guess they are arranged to the Korg standard... so I'm having to hand map them.

https://www.korg.com/download/global/kr ... EFGSJ3.pdf

So this brings me to another question. If I wanted to take one of these stock Kronos patterns, or even create one of my own in the Kronos sequencer and import it into jamstix, how would this work in this case? I know how to get a 1 or 2 bar MIDI file out of the Kronos and get it onto the PC. I'm looking at pg 49 of the current jamstix manual about the groove importer and there is a dropdown for the mapping. I'm guessing whatever I export from the Kronos won't work right with any of the choices there. Is there a way I can take this custom drum kit that I'm building and make it into a custom mapping for the groove importer? Does that even make sense?

Post by **Ralph @ Rayzoon** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 10:53 am

Choose the 'GM2' mapping in the importer and see how it works. If it's not even close, do you have a MIDI map reference for the drum kits from Korg?

HotDogWater · Post by **HotDogWater** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 11:49 am

Sure, will give GM2 a shot.

The drum maps are here:
https://www.korg.com/download/global/kr ... EFGSJ3.pdf

starting on page 24.

If you look at the drum patterns, which start on page 184, a lot of them say [All] after them, meaning they should work with any of the kits. Which I guess means there is some rhyme or reason to the kit layouts. Some of them have specific designations like [Dance] which means those patterns are designed to work only with a specific kit.

There are also some GM kits that start on p. 175. Those appear to be very consistently laid out, and the [All] patterns seem to work with them. So maybe those [All] patterns follow the GM standard?

Post by **Ralph @ Rayzoon** » Sat Jul 28, 2018 12:37 pm

Yes, sounds like [ALL] patterns follow GM standard.