Closed Hats always turn to open hats- (SOLVED)

Sir_Plus · Post by **Sir_Plus** » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:31 pm

I have a pattern with hi hats on every beat, which I'm using as the basis for a song. Everything that Jamstix generates turns the hats into a total [i:83f54a3b14]wash
of open hats[/i:83f54a3b14]. I've tried many combinations of Styles and Drummers, turned off/disabled Fill and Groove elements, but I still get a wash of open hats.
The only time I was able to avoid this, the hat arrangement got really sparse, which is what I don't want.
Usually I can get a result I like, even without understanding everything about the various controls, just by messing around. But I just can't seem to
get the hats to behave.
Really, I just want closed hats on each tick box, with an [i:83f54a3b14]occasional[/i:83f54a3b14] open hat, or an [i:83f54a3b14]occasiona[/i:83f54a3b14]l skipped hat. So, where is that one magic button or dial that
I need? I just can't find it.

Jamstix is so awesome, but this one thing is killing me....Help!

Any suggestions are appreciated![u:83f54a3b14][/u:83f54a3b14][b:83f54a3b14][/b:83f54a3b14]

Post by **Ralph @ Rayzoon** » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:21 am

Are you using the internal Jamstix sounds?

Sir_Plus · Post by **Sir_Plus** » Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:00 pm

Yes, I'm only using Jamstix internal sounds, and not routing to any other instrument.
For the moment, is there any quick way to copy a hat pattern
(or any pattern on a limb) and paste it to all bars across the whole song?

Anyway, thanks for the quick reply. I'll keep tinkering and check back later.

Post by **Ralph @ Rayzoon** » Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:12 am

It sounds like a #4 MIDI controller event for hihat pedal pressure is on the MIDI track for JS4 in the DAW. Can you double-check that none exists?

Sir_Plus · Post by **Sir_Plus** » Sun Sep 13, 2020 1:12 am

MIDI track was blank (no events at all),
Everything was in Jamstix.

Or so I thought!

Well, I was dragging stuff from Jamstix into an empty track in Studio One.
On the instrument track with Jamstix, the track was set to receive from
"All Inputs". When I changed that to receive from Jamstix, the problem
went away.

So I think that some MIDI CC was getting sent to Jamstix somehow, even
though the track that I was dragging MIDI clips to (from Jamstix) was set to output "NONE".

Thanks so much Ralph for the quick response. I think that the problem is
solved. If I see anyone else who runs in to this, I will point them in the
right direction. I will mark this as "Solved" after I do some more work.

Sir_Plus · Post by **Sir_Plus** » Tue Sep 15, 2020 9:55 pm

Did some more stuff in Jamstix, and everything is working correctly.
So indeed, I was unintentionally sending MIDI to Jamstix from another
track. I'm super glad that it was just a goof by me.

Thanks again for the pointer Ralph !

Grem_Songs · Post by **Grem_Songs** » Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:35 pm

Sir_Plus I had something like this happen to me about a month ago!! I came here and described my problem looking for an answer. After posting here I kept asking myself, where is that info coming from!? Turns out I had exported the JS4 midi out to a trk in my DAW, and sure enough it was getting sent to JS4!!

And like you, I'm no noobie to JS4, not an expert either. But I went round and round and.... chasing my own tail and didn't even know it!!

Sir_Plus · Post by **Sir_Plus** » Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:15 am

Yeah- It was an all-day thing for me. That one little thing that shouldn't
have been hard, but I got tunnel vision.
Then I came across another curve-ball (this one I figured out much quicker):
I was dragging loops from Jamstix into an empty track. The idea was make
whole bunch of different loops, and play around with the arrangement. But I had Jamstix
set to export using the EZ Drummer midi map. So when I used the experimental
track to trigger Jamstix, it sounded different.
This time, it only took 5 minutes to figure it out. So, I'm getting better!
(I [i:a78fd8d329]think[/i:a78fd8d329]....)