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but jamstix 4 offer better drum soundengine feature that make it less weak and need for other plugin to play sounds is reduced. so wy not release a jamstix 4 that have better soundengine and later when its done the better drummer algorithmic engine

acdc_2000 wrote:but jamstix 4 offer better drum soundengine feature that make it less weak and need for other plugin to play sounds is reduced. so wy not release a jamstix 4 that have better soundengine and later when its done the better drummer algorithmic engine

I'd imagine the drummer engine itself is far more important to most users, that is the feature that sets this software apart.

If you need better sounds, as you have noted you can get different software and let Jamstix drive it.

You mentioned DrumCore. I haven't used the light version, but I will say the Billy Martin expansion pack is my favorite sampled kit I've ever used. I own Addictive Drums with multiple packs, Superior Drummer, EZ Drummer with a few EZX packs, as well as Session Drummer 3, Drum Core 3, in addition to JamStix.

I haven't figured out the mapping from Jamstix to Drum Core, though so I tend to use Addictive Drums with it.

addictive drums cost lots money. but there it is really not much work to program this important features near all other vsti drum or softsynths have, to avoid buy of additional software. addictive drums sound only so good, because it have the easy to program features effects (tape saturation, impulse player for room, layer ). when have it in jamstix can hear that jamstix sound very good too.

adictive drums use often layering. it is called linking. additional sounds for snare and base drum can trigger together in the flexi slot. it have also 12 kick 7 snare and 55 hz sine builtin called trigger samples. this can add to change the attack. there is demo so maybe ralph try out, how usefull it is. and the tape saturatur which have a buttom knob that give punch even if drive is set to 0 for basedrums or the 55 hz sine to let basedrum sound fuller. it sound also good when a synthetic fat sounding kick is a little add to natural kick. jamstix have also many good synthetic drum sounds. when can mix them, can see how good jamstix really sounds

there are only easy to program features currently miss. in the audio previews of adictive when you switch to edit, you can see how the sound is create. no licnese show the drums you not own.
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addictive drums with jamstix i try out. addictive drums miss bounce and snare roll. i own strike this was sell cheap together with structure xpand some other for 70 Eur. demo of all is available. with strike you can program flames, and it have for a snare drum 3 snare roll, 4 flames, 4 short roll, 2 long roll, snare off center, tom off center. short crash l. short crash r and choke on keyboard and offset key too. they tell it snare roll, but it sound simular to bounce. it also have lots effects to get good sound. maybe i could try do a map for strike. strike trigger with notes on channel 1 the patterns, so there need add a channel remapper tool. i think this can replace js3 sound engine better.

really if jamstix have same edit possibilities as other drum software it sound better, because have more articulations and more drum sounds. I buy jamstix 3 because 4 was announce years ago. and i get answer and i thpought they enhance first the effect weak of jamstix. this is not lots work. good sounding effect code is in public domain.
strike can also load in own samples. but it is only 1 sample possible(in each of the 12 slots it have) so no round robbin or velocitiy layer. you can only load several snare sounds and modify in pattern editor. it is possible in strike to use for each step in pattern editor diffrent tune setting. this let simulate diffrent hits. also in editor are several softwar flame settings. prebeat fastest, prebeat fast, prebeat normal, prebeat slow, prebeat slowest. all settings is for center and post beat available too

acdc_2000 wrote:addictive drums cost lots money. but there it is really not much work to program this important features near all other vsti drum or softsynths have, to avoid buy of additional software. addictive drums sound only so good, because it have the easy to program features effects (tape saturation, impulse player for room, layer ). when have it in jamstix can hear that jamstix sound very good too.

adictive drums use often layering. it is called linking. additional sounds for snare and base drum can trigger together in the flexi slot. it have also 12 kick 7 snare and 55 hz sine builtin called trigger samples. this can add to change the attack. there is demo so maybe ralph try out, how usefull it is. and the tape saturatur which have a buttom knob that give punch even if drive is set to 0 for basedrums or the 55 hz sine to let basedrum sound fuller. it sound also good when a synthetic fat sounding kick is a little add to natural kick. jamstix have also many good synthetic drum sounds. when can mix them, can see how good jamstix really sounds

there are only easy to program features currently miss. in the audio previews of adictive when you switch to edit, you can see how the sound is create. no licnese show the drums you not own.
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I paid more for Jamstix than I did for AD2.

I really don't see what you expect from Jamstix. I read your posts and get the feeling you are really just looking for jamstix to provide plugins (compressors, eqs, etc) to manipulate the existing sounds. Plugins that do these things are a dime a dozen, even free. Why not try some instead of complaining about Jamstix lacking in this area?

it is lots more work to try with the thousands of VST are out than have such effects buitlin. and when jamstix 4 then come this is obsolete because i can maybe do builtin. so my suggestion is to release first a jamstixs 4 that have the better effects, and user can more easy and faster create better sounds. I understand that the algorithmik composer cost lots time to program. but a audio engine enhance with more effects is not much work.

effects builtin are the reason wy most known as good drum software and samplers have effects builtin. and if jamstix have such effects then addictive drums is less need. jamstix seem have more drums as the 600$ version of addictive drums. as far i see 1 pack for 89 Eur have only 1 base drum and 2 snare drums. or is this wrong ?. now can count how much drums jamstix have.

you can try out remove all effects in a addictive drum preset and it sound not better as jamstix anymore.

since jamsticks 3 snares new articulation of offset and bounce was add. i use this in some songs. not all snares in jamstix support that. so my wish for more sound expansion pack. addictive drums have no snare bounce and offset. the price of a jamstix expansion pack is not so high as the addictive drums pack. for me the sound of raw drum samples is good enough and that addictive drums is so famouse and popular is clear for me, because of the effects most sounds in addictive drums use.

Can I request that we keep this thread for actual information about Jamstix, and not a discussion about [u:3a546c4980]one[/u:3a546c4980] user's specifc preferences?

RhythmicallyChallenged wrote:Can I request that we keep this thread for actual information about Jamstix, and not a discussion about [u:6407e6634d]one[/u:6407e6634d] user's specifc preferences?

Yes, that does seem to be a [b:6407e6634d]very[/b:6407e6634d] reasonable request at this point.

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The first Private Beta was sent out on 12/30/16, definitely not 14 months ago. That sounds more like the internal Beta, which had no testers outside of Rayzoon. The current private Beta actually includes several users from this forum. Barring unforeseen issues, we hope to go public Beta within 6-8 weeks

What really makes it kind of hard to stay calm is that weaks become month, month become years, years become decades.....very rare info about what is going on and WHY things dont happen as announced.....I really must admit that is outstanding and one of a kine jamstix is as "unique" is this "progress" in devellopment where weaks become years.....More a statement then a critic, I think if you just love this thing (like I do )) and take this genius you have to live with the "dark side" maybe

acdc_2000: Please keep your posts regarding Addictive Drums over in the Support forum where you have started a thread regarding them. Thank you.