Recreating Classic Songs

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alexis
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Recreating Classic Songs

Post by alexis »

billzoe wrote:I was looking for Presets for Jamstix , but i guess its not that type of VSTi. This post comes close to what was hoping for.

* anyone know any tips to try for Country Western (Classic , Not Modern which is just Pop beats)...

Like above where it shows Ralphs advice to Load ____, Tweak this, that... but how-what to do for Classic Country Ballads and Shuffles?
I would love to get my hands on any Ringo stuff. He's so good with being very minimal but supporting the song to the max. He's also a minor Fill god, IMO!

BTW - in JS3 there is a Style called Country Ballad, and I think it can be shuffled, so maybe that's what you need! :D
vanblah
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Post by vanblah »

Here's one I've been trying to get for a while: Peter Gabriel's "Come Talk to Me." I'm not sure where to even start. Is there a Manu Katché player coming? Sometimes it feels like a samba ...
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Post by Ralph @ Rayzoon »

That song is mostly percussion and not easy to do.
A 'Manu' model is a good possibility in the future but will be focused on drumset performance, not percussion.
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m_poirier
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Post by m_poirier »

Resurrecting this thread, it's been a while !

I would really like to get the parameters right for a Nick Mason style.

I spend a lot of time clicking, selecting and modifying parameters randomly not knowing the drummer's language, I seem to be getting nowhere...

Thanks !
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Post by tl_webb »

I spend a lot of time clicking, selecting and modifying parameters randomly not knowing the drummer's language, I seem to be getting nowhere...
This really struck a chord with me! I often find myself in exactly the same predicament, and usually just end up giving up.

Does anyone know of an online (or even print for that matter) resource that discusses drumming nomenclature upon which the Jamstix model is based, and how the different elements interact? That would be something I'd actually be willing to pay for!
d_steinschneider
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Post by d_steinschneider »

tl_webb wrote:
I spend a lot of time clicking, selecting and modifying parameters randomly not knowing the drummer's language, I seem to be getting nowhere...
This really struck a chord with me! I often find myself in exactly the same predicament, and usually just end up giving up.

Does anyone know of an online (or even print for that matter) resource that discusses drumming nomenclature upon which the Jamstix model is based, and how the different elements interact? That would be something I'd actually be willing to pay for!
I play bass. Years ago I took weekly drum lessons. We did rudiments, sight reading of different beats and fills, and playing covers. I've found some useful lessons on YouTube.

With that said I would also be willing to pay a Jamstix expert to get me up to speed! Maybe we can band together for a web based lesson.
Dali_S
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Post by Dali_S »

I will be playing guitar on Po-Jama People by Frank Zappa at the next King Crimson Camp (https://www.threeofaperfectpair.com/) next Summer. It will be my 6th time down there. :)

I would like suggestion for Drummer to approximate Chester Thompson (Zappa, Genesis, Phil Collins). I don't think JS Phil would really do the job, right?

Here's the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPi9HYODBjc

It looks the song start around 96 BPM and at the solo it goes at 120 BPM.

I got 100% of Jamstix, all packs and AI.

So if you have any idea or suggestion for drummer and style to use, I'm more than happy to give it a try!

Thanks in advance.
Azimuth (Archive)
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Post by Azimuth (Archive) »

Based upon the Drum chops in the song itself I would start with Dave, Bill & maybe Tony (he's surprising sometimes). I think different models would work better in different sections of that song.
If you're trying to re-create a carbon copy, you are in for a hand editing nightmare and have my heartfelt condolences. :lol:
Dali_S
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Post by Dali_S »

a_zimuth wrote:I would start with Dave, Bill & maybe Tony (he's surprising sometimes)
Thanks a lot Azimuth for the suggestions! As for the style, I will check further, maybe thing hidden in those JS1 styles...
a_zimuth wrote: If you're trying to re-create a carbon copy, you are in for a hand editing nightmare and have my heartfelt condolences. :lol:
I wouldn't be able to do that !

I was hoping to find a midi file and let JS interpret it but it's not such a well known song. Maybe I will get another Zappa midi file (to get the complexity) and jam with it.

My other strategy will be to play with phase cancelling and try to remove the solo. Should be 80% possible...
steve b
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Post by steve b »

I don't know if you have Ableton Live 10 or not,but you could import any wonderful FZ audio song into live,convert it and extract it as a midi file.Then import it into Jamstix.
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