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Just use the preview button and build your groove in the bar editor until you're happy. At that point, you can save it and use it with the 'Import' style to build a preset for use with the song builder.

You can also bypass the save/import step by using the "Turn groove into Style" function on the Bar Menu.

Also, I thought I would add that there must be something in Reason that is changing the MIDI when it exports it. Cubase has about 20 different options for importing and exporting MIDI. One says export as Type 0, which I have no idea what that means but, it could be something like that. I also remember something about using a Yamaha convention. You could also have a transpose function turned on or something in the DAW that makes the MIDI correct when it goes to the instrument but different on export. Anyway, there has to be something in Reason (probably an option) that is causing it.

Thanks [b:8bbd7818e3]jas_lan[/b:8bbd7818e3] .cant see options for MIDI export, will keep looking

Well just in case anyone else ever needs to know, there seems to be 'MIDI 0' and 'MIDI 1' type MIDI files, and I converted the former to the latter using this
[url]http://www.midconverter.com/midi-converter/download/[/url]
and that worked and was the quickest way (it also batch converts)

Quick question -- when I try and create a groove this way, should the midi import be exactly 1 bar long? I'm getting strange results but the loops I have are typically more than a single bar in length.

MIDI imports can be more than one bar but make sure there are no silent bars at the beginning. The importer will use as many bars from the import as can be fit into the part length with a max of 64 bars. So if you use a 4-bar MIDI file and the part has at least 4 bars before repeating, you should see all 4 bars imported.

So to some extent my midi file has to 'track' the structure of my piece?

So if I have 8 bars of midi and a song with a 4 bar verse followed by a 4 bar chorus it'll use the first 4 bars of the midi file as the basis of the verse and the next four as the basis of the chorus?

[As an aside, have been on jamstix since release 1, just upgraded to 4 from 3 and think the new version is a huge leap up in terms of functionality and ease of use]

chris wrote: So if I have 8 bars of midi and a song with a 4 bar verse followed by a 4 bar chorus it'll use the first 4 bars of the midi file as the basis of the verse and the next four as the basis of the chorus?

No, that's not how it works. In your example, you would create 2 4-bar MIDI files, one for the verse and one for the chorus. Now create two 4-bar parts in the JS4 song sheet, use 'Import' style and use the verse MID file in one part and the chorus file for the other part.

As an aside, have been on jamstix since release 1, just upgraded to 4 from 3 and think the new version is a huge leap up in terms of functionality and ease of use

Thank you!!

Ralph [RZ] wrote:

chris wrote: So if I have 8 bars of midi and a song with a 4 bar verse followed by a 4 bar chorus it'll use the first 4 bars of the midi file as the basis of the verse and the next four as the basis of the chorus?

No, that's not how it works. In your example, you would create 2 4-bar MIDI files, one for the verse and one for the chorus. Now create two 4-bar parts in the JS4 song sheet, use 'Import' style and use the verse MID file in one part and the chorus file for the other part.

Okay - how do I create multiple 'parts' in this way? Because if I import multiple times it just overwrites the previous setting. I assume what is meant to happen is that like in the diagram on page 12 of the Manual, lower left in the song builder, I'm able to create multiple user defined sections of my own in here ?

Incidentally, I am also able to select Import via the "Build" Tab by selecting drum style - but in this case once I click 'Load Style' nothing appears to happen.

I'm new and I've been trying to figure all this out too. If I understand correctly;

In the 'Song builder', you set your initial song structure etc. and choose 'import' from the styles. Then click create.

Then when you've done that you look at the 'Groove' section & you can see the 'Song Sheet' on the left of the 'Brain' window. Clicking on the various elements eg Verse, chorus, shows the different Brain modules for each section.

So click on verse to load the MIDI for that, and clicking on the chorus you can load a different MIDI file for that (or saved groove or whatever). Any linked parts will also be affected.

Dunno if that helps ?

hotmitts_1, you are absolutely correct and thank you for helping out!